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[Console Wars]

Gente, alguien sabe si la Wii saca RGB nativamente, sin necesidad de mods?

Pregunto para saber si alguno de estos cables es realmente RGB, o es puro chamuyo:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RGB-Scart-Video ... SwGvhT3KhB

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-GENUIN ... SwsFpWSgNH

[Magnus87]

Perdon por tardar en responder

No es necesario andar instalando WADS de diferentes emuladores en la NAND, es preferible que todo este en la SD directamente.

Si tenes Priiloader instalado podes bootear directamente al HB Channel evitando pasar por el System Menu

En cuanto al RGB

If your display supports 480p, the component cables are by far the best way to use your Wii. For NTSC Wii systems, this is really the only choice you should consider, as NTSC Wii's don't support RGB and all other output methods the Wii supports are inferior to component. If you're using a PAL Wii and your display only supports 240p & 480i (or if you're playing a game that only supports 480i), you'll have the option to use RGB. I was curious to see if there would be a difference between the two, as the signals are slightly different.

Fuente: RetroRGB

[Console Wars]

Bien, descartare entonces el RGB (a menos que me consiga una Wii PAL.... bueno, descarto el RGB xD).

Lo de los wads, la verdad como no pude hacer andar lo del USB directamente probe cargar algunos y andan bien (aunque los VC de SNES me piden Classic Controller). No se como sea el tema de la SD, porque los wads los tenia justamente en la SD, pero hasta que no los 'instale' con el Wad Manager no me los mostraba en ningun lado.

Y el Priiloader no lo tengo, segun vi mi consola no lo puedo instalar (necesito otra app que ahora no me acuerdo el nombre).

En otro tema, lo que quiero ver de conseguirme es un adaptador para usar joys originales de NES, SNES y Genesis, conectandolos al puerto de GC.

Esto:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/G-Tron-4-in-1-G ... Sw~otWcLL8

En teoria deberia andar en emuladores y VC, y supuestamente sin lagg ni configuraciones.

Otra pregunta: ¿Se puede jugar multiplayer en los emuladores? Ponele, ¿Se puede jugar de a 4 al micromachines 2 de Genesis?

[Magnus87]

Priiloader se puede instalar en cualquier maquineta, salvo WiiU. Lo descomprimis tal cual en la SD, lo cargas por el HBC, se instala y Luego para iniciarlo solo debes mantener apretado el boton reset de la consola.
El priiloader te salva las papas si por casualidad algun WAD arruino el arranque de la maquina


Hablando de WiiU, vos no tenias una?


Los WADS por si solo no hace nada, hay que instalarlos en la NAND o en la EMUNAND.


Los WADS de homebrew hay de dos tipos
-FULL: Crea un canal e instala en la NAND el programa (Luego no se pueden autoactualizar, hay que volver a instalar otro FULL WAD para reemplazarlo). Podes usarlo sin una SD
-Forwarders: Crea un canal pero este es simplemente un acceso directo a la SD por lo cual es necesario que siempre este ahi


Mi recomendación es tender a usar lo máximo posible la EMUNAND ya que por un lado evitas limitarte a los 512MB de la Wii y por el otro lado cualquier cosa que instales no afectara a la maquina

[Console Wars]

Priiloader se puede instalar en cualquier maquineta, salvo WiiU. Lo descomprimis tal cual en la SD, lo cargas por el HBC, se instala y Luego para iniciarlo solo debes mantener apretado el boton reset de la consola.
El priiloader te salva las papas si por casualidad algun WAD arruino el arranque de la maquina


Hablando de WiiU, vos no tenias una?


Los WADS por si solo no hace nada, hay que instalarlos en la NAND o en la EMUNAND.


Los WADS de homebrew hay de dos tipos
-FULL: Crea un canal e instala en la NAND el programa (Luego no se pueden autoactualizar, hay que volver a instalar otro FULL WAD para reemplazarlo). Podes usarlo sin una SD
-Forwarders: Crea un canal pero este es simplemente un acceso directo a la SD por lo cual es necesario que siempre este ahi


Mi recomendación es tender a usar lo máximo posible la EMUNAND ya que por un lado evitas limitarte a los 512MB de la Wii y por el otro lado cualquier cosa que instales no afectara a la maquina

Ah, ya lo revise y estaba confundiendo el Priiloader con el Bootmii como boot2.

Despues vere de instalarlo, aunque no entendi muy bien que es el tema de los hacks que se le 'instalan' y esas cosas. Lo que yo lei sobre la app lo lei aca: http://wii.scenebeta.com/tutorial/insta ... priiloader

Otra pregunta: ¿Se puede jugar multiplayer en los emuladores? Ponele, ¿Se puede jugar de a 4 al micromachines 2 de Genesis?

¿Sobre esto sabes algo?

[Magnus87]

El GENSPLUSGX tiene una opcion dentro de su configuracion donde te da a elegir que tipo de control o accesorio esta usando, una de ellas es el multitap

los "Hacks" son algunas opciones extras pero no son necesarias

[Console Wars]

El GENSPLUSGX tiene una opcion dentro de su configuracion donde te da a elegir que tipo de control o accesorio esta usando, una de ellas es el multitap

Genial! Vere de buscar esa configuracion, aunque primero me tengo que hacer de mas wiimotes (asunto en proceso). La proxima juntada no vamos a quedarnos sin micromachines de a 4!

los "Hacks" son algunas opciones extras pero no son necesarias

Joya, entonces instalo lo que me pusistes en el link, y no toco nada mas xD.

[Magnus87]

Cualquier cosa Avisame

[Console Wars]

Cualquier cosa Avisame

Muchisimas gracias, Mag!



Seguro te voy a estar hinchando de nuevo en cuanto me surja otra consulta.

[Console Wars]

Perdon el doble post, pero...

En cuanto al RGB

If your display supports 480p, the component cables are by far the best way to use your Wii. For NTSC Wii systems, this is really the only choice you should consider, as NTSC Wii's don't support RGB and all other output methods the Wii supports are inferior to component. If you're using a PAL Wii and your display only supports 240p & 480i (or if you're playing a game that only supports 480i), you'll have the option to use RGB. I was curious to see if there would be a difference between the two, as the signals are slightly different.

Fuente: RetroRGB

Parece que no todo esta perdido!

NTSC and PAL Wii's are not different at all hardware wise, the only difference is the software, which tells the console which video modes to support.

This causes a problems, as NTSC Wii games will tell a Wii console to output Composite, S-Video and Component, and PAL games will tell it to output Composite, RGB and Component.

Firstly, its important to realise that both NTSC and PAL Wii Consoles can output all video modes, thats Composite, S-Video, RGB Scart and Component. However the actual available video modes is set in software, and is different for each region:-

By default NTSC Wii consoles will output:-
Composite, S-Video and Component

and by default PAL Wii consoles will output:-
Composite, RGB Scart and Component

Which means if you tried to use an RGB Scart cable on an NTSC Wii you would likely not be able to see the Wii menu screen (Or possibly just a 'red image' due to the Wii trying to send S-Video over RGB Scart, because the Wii's S-Video signals dont match the pins needed for a normal Scart S-Video connection)

You can of course use the Composite Video signal over an RGB Scart cable (Only if you can overide your TV defaulting to RGB) but then whats the point in having an RGB Scart cable! You may aswell just use the Composite cable that comes in the box with the Wii.

Also, if you use homebrew apps to boot import games (PAL Games in this case) they also override the Wii's default video modes. If your play a PAL game on an NTSC Wii it will switch the consoles video mode to RGB Scart when you boot the game. Likewise if you boot an NTSC game on a PAL Wii it will switch to S-Video when the game loads.

Composite and Component connections are unaffected as they are the same for all regions (Apart from the fact that the Composite signal will still switch between NTSC and PAL encoding, but almost all TV's support both now)

I have heard that some homebrew apps can now 'force' the desired video mode when booting import Wii games, but I havent tested this and have no idea how well it works.

Bottom line is, if you want to use an import Wii or play import Wii games your best bet is to use either a Composite or Component connection for ultimate compatibility

You basically have two options:-

1) You could change your NTSC Wii into a PAL Wii using a homebrew program like 'AnyRegion Changer', which can completely change your console into one that is functionally identical to a PAL Wii, and as the PAL Wii system menu supports RGB then you should have no problems seeing the system menu using an RGB Scart cable

Usually this would also mean that you can only play PAL Wii games (unless you then use a homebrew launcher such as 'Gecko OS') However, you could also have your Wii menu set as one region (eg PAL) whilst having your 'game region' set as another (eg NTSC) - but I have never tried this myself so cant say if this is safe to do etc.

Theres one big disadvantage to this method though - i'm guessing the main reason you bought an NTSC Wii was to play NTSC Wii games? If you switch your console into a PAL Wii then RGB will work fine in the system menu and when playing PAL Wii games, but if you try and play NTSC Wii games then in most cases it will switch the console to the 'NTSC video settings' when the game boots, which will cause the 'red screen' again.

Of course the opposite should be true aswell, you could keep you console NTSC and connected by RGB Scart, and then navigate the Wii menu with the 'red screen' then use Gecko OS to boot a PAL Wii game which should immediately switch into full colour RGB when booting.

Theres was some effort by homebrewers being made to disable the video mode switch, but im not sure if they have managed it yet.

IMPORTANT NOTE - If you opt to switch your NTSC Wii into a PAL Wii I would highly recommend installing 'BootMii' and backing up your Wii's NAND memory first, so that even if your mess up with the region change you can still get your Wii back to how it was before you made the changes.

2) As you have already suggested, you could buy a Component to RGB convertor. I have seen ones available alot cheaper than £100 on eBay, but I have never had to use one so couldnt vouch for their quality.

Those are pretty much your only choices at the moment im afraid

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Its important to realise that only PAL Wii consoles and PAL Wii games are coded to officially support RGB, and until either:-

- Homebrewers figure out the coding for different video modes and how to switch the modes, or prevent them from being switched when booting games (Its simply a few lines of code in the system menu/game boot sequence that decides what video modes to support)

or

- Modders figure out how to force the Wii's Video Chip to output only RGB.

Then the options I mentioned further up are currently the only choices if you need RGB.

(It is quite likely possible to 'force' the Wii's DAC/Video Chip to output only RGB (aswell as VGA) by using a simple high/low select pin (Like the GameCube Component cable mods) but as yet no-one seems to have really investigated this, and unfortunately I dont have the necessary equipment to do so (oscillosope, etc) The video chip is also made specifically for Nintendo by 'Rohm' so there will never be an official pinout to the chip, and at the moment Wii's are still too expensive to be tinkering with)

Dont forgot though that NTSC Wii consoles do support S-Video which might be an acceptable option instead of RGB?

If you really need RGB then I think the easiest way by far is to buy a PAL Wii console (Or change your NTSC Wii console into a PAL one) and then buy PAL Wii games - which is exactly what I have done for the most part (Except for Madworld and No More Heroes for obvious reasons)

Sorry I couldnt be of more help

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Fuente: http://www.bordersdown.net/threads/97549-Modded-US-Wii-what-do-you-mean-it-doesn-t-output-RGB-!

O sea, basicamente si se puede usar el cable RGB SCART, pero solo para juegos de Wii PAL y no para homebrew y emuladores (lo cual es mi idea). Seguire buscando, y si encuentro algo mas aviso...